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Melissa M's avatar

Thank you for this. I almost gave him a pass a few years back but after he looked at that perfect ear and still endorsed "himself," it was clear that he is - was, and always will be - a largely ignorant toxic misogynistic narcissist who lies with vomitous hubris as he insists he's not political. He never grew out of his role as Joe on NewsRadio, which wasn't particularly funny then and is even less so now. Himself's entire stable exists of white men who can't play on an equal playing field. May all who continue to spew their ridiculousness on his behalf be forever smelling the stank from riding his coattails.

Leslie Carroll's avatar

Leave Marie Antoinette out of it. The comparisons are tired and inaccurate. It’s Louis (l’etat c’est moi) XIV who is the correct parallel to Trump, the gilded autocrat who built pleasure palaces and monuments and statues if himself everywhere became mired in foreign wars at the expense of his country. Marie Antoinette, like all French queens, was a consort who had no political power. Your essay packs more power when your historical allusions are accurate.

Jim Halliday's avatar

Most of the legends about Marie Antoinette, including the famous "let them eat cake", are also false.

DianeAsch's avatar

I believe she was 14 when she was married to Louie and also from a royal family. How much could she have known about the lives of the peasants?

Steven Lance Fornal's avatar

We all must remember that Joe Rogan only played an intelligent guy on News Radio.

Pam C's avatar

Rogan can say what he wants but so can we. why just shut the f up? he's just another one of those influencers/poscaster that thinks he can Tell us how to live. perhaps he should learn some basic dignity and compassion for other people. He likes to tear things apart and start trouble.

Dan Marshall's avatar

Joe Rogan has been a fuckin’ Loud Mouth and MAGA propaganda tool for as long as Trump been in office and always has some excuses and makes millions !!!

Cindy Welsh's avatar

Who are you to tell anyone to shut up. Freedom of speech is article 1 of the constitution. The ugly speech coming from you and rump supporters does not get a pass. This regime only has cruelty negative violent speak and actions. Most Americans are kind and respectful looking for positive growth. You want negativity and hatred I hear Russia is looking for people.

Hopeisa4letterword's avatar

I remember him from the show “News Radio” and he was the WORST actor in the whole GD group! Short too!

Theresa Eubanks's avatar

This reminds me of the Press Secretary returning the day after she took pregnancy leave to scold the public for “divisive” and “ critical comments against the administration”.

The most famous joke about France's unofficial national animal—the Gallic rooster—is a self-deprecating punchline popularized by French comedian Coluche:"The rooster is the only animal that can sing proudly even with both feet deep in the sht."*It is a beloved piece of French dark humor meant to poke fun at the nation's resilience; even when the country is in a mess ("dans la merde"), the French will still proudly strut and crow. AI

Rxan Smith's avatar

Thom Hartmann just dropped the latest Raw Story hit: Joe Rogan has “hubris” for telling critics of the UFC event at the White House to shut the f*ck up. Rogan’s crime? Saying a cage fight on the South Lawn doesn’t automatically mean everyone there endorses every policy. And for not turning the mic into a ritual denunciation when one fighter said something crude about Michelle Obama.

The piece calls it complicity. Normalization. Damage to democracy. The solution? Rogan should follow his own advice… and shut the f*ck up.

This is the new “liberalism” in action.

The old version... the one with the coexist stickers... believed in open conversation, tolerance for disagreement, and the idea that not every cultural moment had to be a loyalty test. It assumed adults could handle speech they hated without labeling it violence or demanding the speaker be silenced for insufficient outrage.

That version lost.

What replaced it treats insufficient progressive signaling as moral failure. Rogan’s real sin isn’t the UFC take. It’s that he built one of the largest independent platforms on Earth by refusing to police every guest, every joke, every uncomfortable moment. He lets people talk. Millions listen because they’re tired of being told what conclusions they’re allowed to reach.

Even when Rogan criticizes Trump now... on Iran, on enforcement tactics, on Epstein handling... the machine still wants him neutralized. The format itself is the threat. Long-form, unscripted, audience decides. That bypasses the gatekeepers who spent years insisting their version of reality was the only acceptable one.

The “coexist” era ended the moment the people holding institutional power decided dissent on certain topics wasn’t debate anymore. It was harm. And harm justifies pressure, smears, and demands for self-censorship.

Rogan telling over-politicized critics to chill isn’t hypocrisy. It’s consistency with wanting some corner of life left that isn’t conscripted into the culture war. The demand that he perform the correct level of outrage instead? That’s the actual shift.

This is why these platforms and these conversations keep growing. People can feel the difference between genuine liberalism and the version that only coexists with approved thoughts.

The note is written in your direct, uncomfortable-truths voice... short paragraphs, no hedging, systemic point without tribal signaling.

Lyn M's avatar

Anything Trump pushes to sell is worthless.

But the fools part with their money.

Yobbo's avatar

Can someone here please contact Dana White and demand him to fire Josh Hokic